Points 2 2013 Proposed Map - Alabama Region Sports Car Club of America

Cholewa · 03-27-2013, 02:34 PM

Enjoy

I'm debating making the first slalom optional, and am willing to take suggestions on the finish/back 3/4's. This is a rough idea of what the course should look like. Plenty of room to stretch your legs for the faster cars, and plenty of places where a momentum car can take full advantage.

JohnW8 · 03-27-2013, 02:54 PM

I was told to avoid crossovers like the plague since it limits the number of cars on course and increases the possibility of problems.

Cholewa · 03-27-2013, 02:58 PM

I tried to make it as thoughtful as possible to allow 2 cars on course and not making the immediate area around the crossover spin friendly.

engled · 03-27-2013, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnW8

I was told to avoid crossovers like the plague since it limits the number of cars on course and increases the possibility of problems.

It causes problems for workers as well, they are a touch on the dangerous side IMHO.

Cholewa · 03-27-2013, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by engled

It causes problems for workers as well, they are a touch on the dangerous side IMHO.

So no crossover. I thought I made it it well enough that it's straight in and straight out to eliminate coneage, and once the car is clear they won't have to turn their back on anything (assuming there's a work station at that light pole) as the next car would be coming from the same field of view.

If it's no good I'll remake it with something else

engled · 03-27-2013, 08:51 PM

Man, if you are going to show up at oh:dark thirty you make the course anyway you want.

My comment was just an observation.

Cholewa · 03-27-2013, 09:33 PM

We'll let a few more folks weigh in and see what the verdict is.

chuck schultz · 03-28-2013, 05:59 PM

Where are the finish lights? As shown, the finish could be a problem, depending on where the lights are.

jeallen · 03-29-2013, 03:43 PM

I think this proposal is Ok. In general, I feel crossovers are fine, as long as they don't add confusion. Cone clean up can be an issue, but this one is in and out quick (there isn't much of a delay), workers would need to wait to clean up any downed cones in the crossover section (but there should be a low cone count there).

When crossover is used to make a second loop (this does not), things can get iffy fast.

MX5_Racer · 02-25-2014, 12:00 PM

For what it's worth I like the idea and way it is laid out. In general you wouldn't let a 2nd car go until that point in the course (~1/2 way) so once the 1st car clears the crossover it is safe to start the 2nd car. If the 1st car does wipe out a lot of cones the starter holds the 2nd car. Plus, it's different!

Even better would be to reverse the direction in the afternoon to even out the tire wear!!

nicktcr · 02-25-2014, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G_Racer

For what it's worth I like the idea and way it is laid out. In general you wouldn't let a 2nd car go until that point in the course (~1/2 way) so once the 1st car clears the crossover it is safe to start the 2nd car. If the 1st car does wipe out a lot of cones the starter holds the 2nd car. Plus, it's different!

Even better would be to reverse the direction in the afternoon to even out the tire wear!!

Do note that this was posted just shy of one (1) year ago.

/threadcromancy

MX5_Racer · 02-25-2014, 05:30 PM

LOL! I still like it!

rodhx · 02-25-2014, 08:21 PM

Zombie thread!

MX5_Racer · 02-25-2014, 10:36 PM

I sorry...

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodhx

Zombie thread!

SamC · 09-05-2014, 10:17 AM

I would like to revive this thread in hopes of re-creating this course in October. This course was by far my favorite in my limited autocross experience. I would also like to pitch the idea of a Nationals type competition where we run one way in the morning with 3 runs, then reverse it in the afternoon for 3 more runs, then the best 2 scores are added to determine the winner. Thoughts?

MX5_Racer · 09-05-2014, 10:55 AM

I like it, except 4 runs in the morning and 4 runs in the afternoon, because...racecar!

rodhx · 09-05-2014, 11:40 AM

We could go super minimalist and do away with almost all the cones. Slalom the light poles out, 180 around the last one, & slalom them back. Anyone who takes a course walk is DSQ'd and sent home.

Even the Japanese Corvettes should love that one

HPEVOX · 09-05-2014, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodhx

We could go super minimalist and do away with almost all the cones. Slalom the light poles out, 180 around the last one, & slalom them back. Anyone who takes a course walk is DSQ'd and sent home.

Even the Japanese Corvettes should love that one

I'm game for this lol different Jap corvette this time but I propose we just do around the end light pole and back. That's all.

03-27-2013, 02:34 PM	#1
Cholewa R.I.P. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 2,355	Points 2 2013 Proposed Map Enjoy I'm debating making the first slalom optional, and am willing to take suggestions on the finish/back 3/4's. This is a rough idea of what the course should look like. Plenty of room to stretch your legs for the faster cars, and plenty of places where a momentum car can take full advantage. __________________ M. Cholewa Because they heard I liked my name, so they put my name as my name so I could have my name in my name... all the time.

03-27-2013, 02:54 PM	#2
JohnW8 I like yellow. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 3,102	I was told to avoid crossovers like the plague since it limits the number of cars on course and increases the possibility of problems. __________________ John W8 CSP 10 Yellow Miata

03-27-2013, 02:58 PM	#3
Cholewa R.I.P. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 2,355	I tried to make it as thoughtful as possible to allow 2 cars on course and not making the immediate area around the crossover spin friendly. __________________ M. Cholewa Because they heard I liked my name, so they put my name as my name so I could have my name in my name... all the time.

03-27-2013, 08:51 PM	#6
engled I'm with stupid Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,013	Man, if you are going to show up at oh:dark thirty you make the course anyway you want. My comment was just an observation. __________________ Darryl E. Blue Miata with ricer stickers. Wizzer Motorsports

03-27-2013, 09:33 PM	#7
Cholewa R.I.P. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 2,355	We'll let a few more folks weigh in and see what the verdict is. __________________ M. Cholewa Because they heard I liked my name, so they put my name as my name so I could have my name in my name... all the time.

03-28-2013, 05:59 PM	#8
chuck schultz Pro-Racer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anniston, AL or some race track Posts: 1,517	Where are the finish lights? As shown, the finish could be a problem, depending on where the lights are. __________________ Chuck Schultz Another black(ish) Miata 2007 Jetta GLI Fahrenheit http://csgoodphotos.com or http://art.csgoodphotos.com

03-29-2013, 03:43 PM	#9
jeallen Driver Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 239	I think this proposal is Ok. In general, I feel crossovers are fine, as long as they don't add confusion. Cone clean up can be an issue, but this one is in and out quick (there isn't much of a delay), workers would need to wait to clean up any downed cones in the crossover section (but there should be a low cone count there). When crossover is used to make a second loop (this does not), things can get iffy fast. __________________ John Allen 52BS TVR/TAC/ALSCCA People under 50 don't deserve to have this much fun! :-) www.marketing-ontheweb.com Last edited by jeallen; 03-29-2013 at 03:47 PM.

02-25-2014, 12:00 PM	#10
MX5_Racer Driver Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 249	For what it's worth I like the idea and way it is laid out. In general you wouldn't let a 2nd car go until that point in the course (~1/2 way) so once the 1st car clears the crossover it is safe to start the 2nd car. If the 1st car does wipe out a lot of cones the starter holds the 2nd car. Plus, it's different! Even better would be to reverse the direction in the afternoon to even out the tire wear!! Last edited by MX5_Racer; 02-25-2014 at 12:25 PM.

02-25-2014, 05:30 PM	#12
MX5_Racer Driver Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 249	LOL! I still like it!

02-25-2014, 08:21 PM	#13
rodhx Rodinator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,747	Zombie thread! __________________ Rod H Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

09-05-2014, 10:17 AM	#15
SamC Pam Ropeland Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 555	I would like to revive this thread in hopes of re-creating this course in October. This course was by far my favorite in my limited autocross experience. I would also like to pitch the idea of a Nationals type competition where we run one way in the morning with 3 runs, then reverse it in the afternoon for 3 more runs, then the best 2 scores are added to determine the winner. Thoughts? __________________ Sam Copeland Nissan 350Z BSP 2 www.RedvsBlackRacing.com www.facebook.com/RedvsBlackRacing Last edited by SamC; 09-05-2014 at 11:08 AM.

09-05-2014, 10:55 AM	#16
MX5_Racer Driver Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 249	I like it, except 4 runs in the morning and 4 runs in the afternoon, because...racecar!

09-05-2014, 11:40 AM	#17
rodhx Rodinator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,747	We could go super minimalist and do away with almost all the cones. Slalom the light poles out, 180 around the last one, & slalom them back. Anyone who takes a course walk is DSQ'd and sent home. Even the Japanese Corvettes should love that one __________________ Rod H Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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